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中国人终于获得诺贝尔奖了。

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我倒想问一句:到底该怎样定义“中国人”这个名词?

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原帖由 cooldwf 于 2010-10-8 20:46 发表
瞧不起诺贝尔奖,全世界那么多的奖,不在乎这一两个阿
你这话说得好有喜感,真幽默 我也来说一句,欢迎你来地球

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既然提到了这件事,就多说两句~
我在国外读书,说实在的,
第一 这世界上要找一个能够客观报道中国的媒体~几乎是不可能的,国内媒体只会唱赞歌,国外媒体则出于政治需要,报道也十分偏颇
第二 政客们我不知道~一般的欧洲人根本不理解中国的现状。一个13亿人的国家~一个由13亿人组成的社会.对于他们来讲太复杂。他们只知道民主,而不知道中国的国情

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回复 23楼 的帖子

【他们只知道民主】可能是知道人权吧。国情,现在的国情是什么。

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呵呵,以后诺贝尔奖也敏感词了……
杨振宁压力很大呀,到哪儿去都是“敏感词物理奖得主”……

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原帖由 jnjk007 于 2010-10-8 20:59 发表
能够长年坚持自己的信仰(那年跟他一批的人大都经商,做其他了),长年为自*由.民*主而战斗的人值得敬佩.
      希望此贴不会被河蟹
64的余党,只怪当年小平同志心太软,请你去真正的了解一下.这些所谓的异见人士,所提出的自,由,民,主是什么!

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盼真相帝现身
liuxiaobo有怎样的事迹?都被和谐了

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Liu xi ao b o曾经还参加过八久年那场活动 是个自由主义战士

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可以翻墙到WIKI上去看看:
LIU的这次入狱是因为追求更大程度上的言论自由,公民权,多党选举等,模仿捷克斯洛伐克“77宪章”的形式起草”08宪章“收集签名,而以阴谋分裂政权的罪名于2008 12 8被捕,被判入狱11年....


Conception and diffusion of the Charter
Main article: Charter 08


Liu Xiaobo actively participated in the writing of Charter 08. Then, along with more than three hundred Chinese citizens, he signed Charter 08, a manifesto released on the 60th anniversary of the adoption of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (10 December 2008), written in the style of the Czechoslovak Charter 77 calling for greater freedom of expression, human rights, and for free elections.[15] As of May 2009, the Charter has collected over 8,600 signatures from Chinese of various walks of life.[16]
[edit] Arrest

Late in the evening of 8 December 2008, two days before the official release of the Charter, Liu Xiaobo was taken away from his home by police.[17] Another scholar and Charter 08 signatory, Zhang Zuhua, was also taken away by police at that time. According to Zhang, the two were detained on suspicion of gathering signatures to the Charter.[18] While Liu was detained, in solitary confinement,[19] he was not allowed to meet with his lawyer or family, though he was allowed to eat lunch with his wife, Liu Xia, and two policemen on New Year's Day 2009.[20] On 23 June 2009, the Beijing procuratorate approved Liu Xiaobo's arrest on charges of "suspicion of inciting subversion of state power," a crime under article 105 of China's Criminal Law.[21] In a Xinhua news release announcing Liu's arrest, the Beijing Public Security Bureau alleged that Liu had incited the subversion of state power and the overturn of the socialist system through methods such as spreading rumors and slander, citing almost verbatim Article 105; the Beijing PSB also noted that Liu had "fully confessed."[2]
[edit] Trial

On 1 December 2009, Beijing police transferred Liu's case to the procuratorate for investigation and processing;[3] on 10 December, the procuratorate formally indicted Liu on charges of "inciting subversion of state power" and sent his lawyers, Shang Baojun and Ding Xikui, the indictment document.[3] He was tried at Beijing No. 1 Intermediate Court on 23 December 2009. His wife was not permitted to observe the hearing, although his brother-in-law was present.[3][22][23] Diplomats from more than a dozen states – including the U.S., Britain, Canada, Sweden, Australia and New Zealand – were denied access to the court to watch the trial and stood outside the court for its duration.[24] Amongst these included Gregory May, political officer at the U.S. Embassy, and Nicholas Weeks, first secretary of the Swedish Embassy.[25] On 25 December, Liu Xiaobo was sentenced to eleven years' imprisonment and two years' deprivation of political rights by the Beijing No. 2 Intermediate Court on charges of "inciting subversion of state power." According to Liu's family and counsel, he plans to appeal the judgment.[4] In the verdict, Charter 08 was named as part of the evidence supporting his conviction.[4]

    China's political reform [...] should be gradual, peaceful, orderly and controllable and should be interactive, from above to below and from below to above. This way causes the least cost and leads to the most effective result. I know the basic principles of political change, that orderly and controllable social change is better than one which is chaotic and out of control. The order of a bad government is better than the chaos of anarchy. So I oppose systems of government that are dictatorships or monopolies. This is not 'inciting subversion of state power'. Opposition is not equivalent to subversion.

    – Liu Xiaobo, Guilty of 'crime of speaking', 9 February 2010[26]

In an article published in the South China Morning Post, Liu argued that his verdict violated China's constitution, and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights of the United Nations. He argued that charges against him of 'spreading rumours, slandering and in other ways inciting the subversion of the government and overturning the socialist system' were contrived, as he did not fabricate or create false information, nor did he besmirch the good name and character of others by merely expressing a point of view, a value judgment.[26]
[edit] International response
Political protest in Hong Kong against the arrest of Liu Xiaobo during the Obama China visit.

Following Liu's detention, a number of individuals, states and organizations across the world called for his release. On 11 December 2008, the U.S. Department of State called for Liu's release;[27] on 22 December 2008, a consortium of scholars, writers, lawyers and human rights advocates called for Liu's release in an open letter;[28] and on 21 January 2009, 300 international writers, including Salman Rushdie, Margaret Atwood, Ha Jin and Jung Chang, called for Liu's release in a statement put out through PEN.[20] In March 2009 Liu Xiaobo was awarded with the Homo Homini Award by the One World Film Festival, organized by the People in Need foundation, for promoting freedom of speech, democratic principles and human rights.[29]

In December 2009, the European Union and United States both issued formal appeals calling for the unconditional release of Liu Xiaobo.[30][31]

China, responding to the international calls prior to the verdict, stated that other nations should "respect China's judicial sovereignty and to not do things that will interfere in China's internal affairs."[32]

Responding to the verdict, United Nations Human Rights Commissioner Navanethem Pillay expressed concern at the deterioration of political rights in China.[33] German Chancellor Angela Merkel strongly criticized the verdict, stating "despite the great progress in other areas in the expression of views, I regret that the Chinese government still massively restricts press freedom."[34] Canada and Switzerland also condemned the verdict.[35][36] Taiwan President Ma Ying-jeou called on Beijing to "tolerate dissent".[37] On 6 January 2010, former Czech president Václav Havel joined with other communist-era dissidents at the Chinese embassy in Prague to present a petition calling for Liu's release.[38] On 22 January 2010, European Association for Chinese Studies sent an open letter to Hu Jintao on behalf of over 800 scholars from 36 countries calling for Liu's release.[39]

On 18 January 2010, Liu was nominated for the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize by Václav Havel, the 14th Dalai Lama, André Glucksmann, Vartan Gregorian, Mike Moore, Karel Schwarzenberg, Desmond Tutu and Grigory Yavlinsky.[40] China's Foreign Ministry spokesperson Ma Zhaoxu stated that awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to Liu would be "totally wrong".[41] Geir Lundestad, a secretary of the Nobel Committee, stated the award would not be influenced by Beijing's opposition.[41] On 25 September 2010, The New York Times reported that a petition in support of the Nobel nomination was being circulated in China.[42]

On 14 September 2010, Jón Gnarr, the mayor of Reykjavík, the capital of Iceland, met on a unrelated matter with CPC Politburo member Liu Qi and demanded China set the dissident Liu Xiaobo free. Also that September Václav Havel, Dana Němcová and Václav Malý, leaders of Czechoslovakia's Velvet Revolution, published an open letter in The International Herald Tribune calling for the award to be given to Liu, while a petition began to circulate soon afterwards.[42][43]

On 6 October 2010, the non-governmental organization Freedom Now, which serves as international counsel to Liu Xiaobo as retained by his family, publicly released a letter from 30 U.S. Members of Congress to President Barack Obama (the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize laureate), urging him to directly raise both Liu Xiaobo's case and that of fellow imprisoned dissident Gao Zhisheng to Chinese President Hu Jintao at the G-20 Summit in November 2010.[44]
[edit] Nobel Peace Prize

On 7 October 2010, Norwegian TV networks reported that Liu Xiaobo was a candidate for the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize.[45] On 8 October 2010 the Nobel Committee awarded him the Prize "for his long and non-violent struggle for fundamental human rights in China".[46] The Norwegian Nobel Committee president Thorbjørn Jagland said the choice of Liu as the recipient of the prize had become clear early on in the process.[47] The Chinese foreign ministry had previously warned the Nobel committee not to give Liu the prize, as they said that it would be against Nobel principles.[47]

All news about the announcement of the award was immediately censored in China. Foreign news broadcasters including CNN and the BBC were immediately blacked out after mentioning the award in China.[48] Web searches for Liu Xiabo were immediately deleted and no information can be searched about him in China. The Chinese Foreign Ministry issued a statement that said, "The Nobel Peace Prize is meant to award individuals who promote international harmony and friendship, peace and disarmament. Liu Xiaobo is a criminal who has been sentenced by Chinese judicial departments for violating Chinese law. Awarding the peace to Liu runs completely counter to the principle of the award and is also a desecration of the Peace Prize."[49] The state-run Xinhua News Agency later carried a report saying that awarding Liu Xiaobo the prize “defiles” (褻瀆) Alfred Nobel's purpose of creating this prize and "may harm China-Norway relations". The spokeperson added that Liu had broken Chinese law and his "actions run contrary to the purpose of the Nobel Peace Prize."[50][51][52]

In response to the award announcement, there were messages of congratulations from the world’s leaders. Jose Manuel Barroso, President of the European Commission, stated that, "The decision of the Nobel Peace Prize Committee is a strong message of support to all those around the world who, sometimes with great personal sacrifice, are struggling for freedom and human rights."[53] The British Foreign and Commonwealth Office said the award “shines a spotlight on the situation of human rights defenders worldwide,” and the Foreign Secretary William Hague continued asking for Liu’s release from jail.[53] US President Barack Obama said in a statement, “By granting the prize to Mr. Liu, the Nobel Committee has chosen someone who has been an eloquent and courageous spokesman for the advance of universal values through peaceful and non-violent means, including his support for democracy, human rights, and the rule of law. But this award reminds us that political reform has not kept pace, and that the basic human rights of every man, woman and child must be respected. We call on the Chinese government to release Mr. Liu as soon as possible.”[54] The Dalai Lama praised the decision, and called on the Chinese government to release the jailed Liu and launch political, legal and constitutional reforms.[55]
[edit] Official Chinese government response

The Norwegian ambassador to the People's Republic of China was summoned by the Chinese government on 8 October 2010 and was presented with an official complaint against the granting of the Nobel Peace Prize to Liu Xiaobo.[56] The Norwegian foreign minister replied by saying that these Chinese government's hostile remarks are unnecessary, as the Nobel Prize nomination committee is independent from the Norwegian government.[57]


[edit] Responses from the World Wide Web

On 8/10/2010, the words Liu Xiaobo and Nobel Peace Prize had became the top key words in both Google search and Twitter.[58]
[edit] Response from online Chinese community

After the announcement of the Nobel Prize award, online Chinese community exposed the fact that Liu Xiaobo had openly stated that China need at least 300 years of colonial rule by the West so that it could reach the level of Hong Kong. Many Chinese viewed the award of the Nobel Prize another western plot against China. Some Chinese viewed Liu as a Hanjian (traitor of the Han Nation) and considered his sentence too lenient , a few extreme nationalists even called for Liu's execution.[59]

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哇。
楼上的强。
可惜我英文不好。
有谁能邦忙翻译一下好不。

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